Talk:Prime decomposition
C
Could someone explain the C example a bit more (either in text around it or in comments)? It's using some things I think may be a bit unconventional. Also, does it actually return some sort of collection which contains the factors? The task says it should. --Mwn3d 09:17, 5 February 2008 (MST)
It prints out the factors seperated by * to stdout, In the context of unix, where everything is a text stream this counts as a collection. Why do you think it's unconventional, If you haven't used libgmp it may look strange.
C
This method seems to be incorrect. E.g. it does not find the decomposition for 2^41 - 1 == 13367 * 164511353. Can someone confirm this? --Renfield (talk) 12:18, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Java
Also the java example doesn't work for all integers > 1, maybe it could be fixed using the java bignum lib.
- I added a BigDecimal example, though I don't think anyone will ever need to go beyond Double.MAX_VALUE. If they want to, they shouldn't be using Java. Also, sign your talk page posts please. See Help:Formatting for tips. --Mwn3d 11:08, 5 February 2008 (MST)
J
I note the J example simply calls a built-in - is that allowed? The task is kinda vague: "write a function that..." which could well include access to some language builtin. Or is the intent to show how one would solve the actual problem in that language? Sgeier 11:32, 6 February 2008 (MST)
- The vagueness is fine. Do it as simply as you see fit. If your language has prime decomposition built-in then that just makes it easier. --Mwn3d 11:44, 6 February 2008 (MST)
Big Numbers
The OCaml and Python versions are incorrect, wrt big numbers?
- Python integers automagically extend. For example:
>>> 2**1234 295811224608098629060044695716103590786339687135372992239556207050657350796238924261053837248378050186443647759070955993120820899330381760937027212482840944941362110665443775183495726811929203861182015218323892077355983393191208928867652655993602487903113708549402668624521100611794270340232766099317098048887493809023127398253860618772619035009883272941129544640111837184L >>>
- --Paddy3118 06:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
The Python code has comparisons with sys.maxint in one of the functions, but the comparisons are really not necessary. You'ld probably not want to use the algorithm in real code, though, as it's not the fastest. Pythonic, yes. Quick, no. --64.238.49.65 15:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh yea. I missed that! (I didn't write the original, and should have looked closer). --Paddy3118 17:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
How to run
Could some please explain how to run the haskell implementation? (I am also curious how the 'primes' are used in the factorize method.) Rahul 11:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Notes
I believe two task requirements put focus out of the "prime decomposition" aim:
- returning an array or collection: stress on how to handle a growing/dynamic array/collection for those language that do not handle arrays/collections as easily as Python, Perl, Octave, J... and any other having an "evoluted" array type... or on how to determine previously the number of prime factors...
- big nums: stress on the usage of an extern lib for big nums if the language does not handle them innerly; easy if they exist widely available bindings e.g. to the GMP or similar; harder if not...
C, Fortran (and likely more) can't accomplish the array-requirement easily (of course they can... but self-made array handling code will be needed...); for Fortran, I've failed (for now) using GMP bindings...
To me, both requirements should be dropped (bignums and the use of "growing arrays" should be other tasks) --ShinTakezou 14:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I also think that bignum/growing array requirements should be dropped. At the very least, the title of the page should indicate that big numbers are part of the challenge. --Showell 07:33, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. The task is asking far too much. Integer factorization is one of those basic programs one learns early, in any language. But if bignums are required, it's entirely another matter: first one needs a library (relatively hard), then one needs a good factorization algorithm (very hard). Eoraptor (talk) 23:28, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
NZMATH
here's a Python 3 example using NZMATH modules--Billymac00 03:11, 3 January 2011 (UTC) <lang python>
- snippet.py Python 3 to demo NZMATH ops ref: http://tnt.math.se.tmu.ac.jp/nzmath/
import sys sys.path.append(r'C:\Python31\Lib') sys.path.append(r'C:\Python31\Lib\site-packages')
from nzmath import prime from nzmath import arith1
print("factors of 64 2 ways: ") print(prime._factor(64)) # returns [ (2 , 6) ] print("") print(prime.properDivisors(64)) # returns [2, 4, 8, 16, 32] </lang>
- You'd need to convert their format for the task, though: 64 needs to return
[2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2]
. - I did the same thing in my PARI/GP solution.
- CRGreathouse 19:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Propose to remove C GMP code
The GMP version of the C code is bad. It can't realistically handle any number with a prime factor that's larger than 64 bit (so it's pretty pointless to use GMP to begin with), is written in a convoluted way, and leaks memory. Keeping it here only serves as a bad influence. If there are no objections soon, I'll delete it. --Ledrug 03:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
C edits: can't be more than 8
I'm reverting the last change of array size from 8 to 30, since it's mathematically impossible to have more (or fewer than) 8 numbers after each run. If you disagree because some diagnostic software says other wise, show me where it will fail. --Ledrug 20:59, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- The program fails because it crashes and dumps core! However, I fixed it wrong and made the size too large: it only needs to be 9, not 30.
- <lang c> for (i = 1, q = p; i <= 30; i++, q += p) {
if (!(b[n] = bit_pos[q % 30])) continue; b[n] = ~b[n]; shift[n++] = q / 30; }</lang>
- I missed that bit_pos[] has only 8 nonzero elements. After this loop fills b[0] to b[7], it continues to assign b[8] = 0, because the assignment is before the
continue
statement. Therefore, program must declare array b[9] to hold elements b[0] to b[8]. --Kernigh 22:29, 7 September 2011 (UTC)- Ok. Don't edit it yet though, I'll modify that part of the logic soon. --Ledrug 22:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Factor missing from 15 November 2001 to 23 March 2012
An anonymous user accidentally deleted the Factor example at 15 November 2001. Rosetta Code never caught this mistake and never restored the deleted code. Nickolas contributed a new Factor example at 23 March 2012. --Kernigh 15:03, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- 2001? I thought Rosetta Code was inaugurated in 2007. -- Gerard Schildberger (talk) 13:37, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Javascript
Javascript implementation without libraries fails with 100 as an argument. It decomposes to 2,2,25
UNIX shell example(s) are missing now (existed on or before 17 March 2024)
Hi;
I think the UNIX Shell example(s) existed (on or before 17 March 2024) but they do not now. ---Retired Build Engineer (talk) 03:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I looked in the history but couldn't see any Unix shell examples (or changes on that date) --Tigerofdarkness (talk) 08:56, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I compared the version before that with the one following it and I don't see any evidence of a sample being deleted. --Tigerofdarkness (talk) 09:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Interesting. I don't think I created them locally on my machine :-) So there must be a silent loss of content due to some infrastructure upgrade process. No biggie to me but I think it is loss to the RC community and the author(s). I don't know if I made any modification to the example(s) I downloaded. Both are called "prime.p". Another plausible explanation is that I have incorrectly categorized these as belonging to "Prime decomposition" when they might belong to a different Prime category. I guess that is the best explanation.
---Retired Build Engineer (talk) 19:27, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Could these Primality by trial division#UNIX Shell be the ones you are thinking of ? They contain functions called primep. --Tigerofdarkness (talk) 20:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)