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==Clarification==
These examples show a weakness of this site: Questions needed to be better formed.
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:I agree and have flagged the page for clarification so anyone better suited than I can see this. There are also many types of windows: translucent, borderless, fullscreen, etc. This page definitely needs a concrete definition. --[[User:Macawm|macawm]] 16:01, 24 January 2007 (EST)
::I don't think including widgets in the coding example is appropriate in this case. I ''could'' see the above example as a part of a new "Program Template" class, similar to "Programming Tasks". I would fully support the creation of such a class. Heck, I'd do it myself right now if I wasn't already half-asleep and afraid of screwing it up.
::For this task, I would want to stick to the basics. I've never had the courage to try GUI programming in anything but VB; the programming examples described in this article have illuminated how to get started. Adding in a lot of code for additional widgets would make the code more difficult to read for beginners.
::: On the other hand, there's never going to be TCL/Tk code for "just creating a window" since that is automatic and implied in the use of Tk in the first place. The single line '''pack [label .l -text "Hello"]''' would create a window and a label and place the label in the window and display the window on the screen. I don't know what it would even mean to "just create a window" without actually doing anything with it. [[User:Sgeier|Sgeier]] 20:20, 30 January 2007 (EST)
::This also illuminates why it's important to start categorizing programming tasks. There should be a task for adding each kind of generic widget, but that would overpopulate the existing programming tasks. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 23:32, 25 January 2007 (EST)
::Perhaps I should have been more clear as to which aspect of the quote I was agreeing with, sorry. I was simply pointing out that I feel this task needs a specific, singular definition. For example, how to create a basic window with a few properties such as a title, a size, and supports resizing. That is all. --[[User:Macawm|macawm]] 10:49, 26 January 2007 (EST)
:::I don't want to lose the functionality offered by the SDL example. In systems like DirectX, OpenGL and SDL, there may not be a direct abstraction corresponding to things like Window Size and resizability. Perhaps that could be split off into another task? --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 09:01, 1 February 2007 (EST)
::: I made a task along the lines of something of a "[http://www.rosettacode.org/wiki/Simple_Windowed_Application basic window that actually has a function]" and filled in the IDL and Tcl examples. Have a look at it ;-) [[User:Sgeier|Sgeier]] 23:05, 19 February 2007 (EST)
===Hmm===
I don't necessarily know if that's correct. If we take the name of the site, Rosetta stone, to be some indication of purpose,
Besides,
Maybe what you actually have there are 8 different questions? Then you could draw the answers together to form your own skeleton.
[[User:Frater|Frater]]
:I agree with Frater, snippets are better than skeletons, the purpose of this site (in my opinion) is to just see tid bits of code to get a person going. Not a full blown app. Once the person has an idea of what to do then he/she can go to the language/library's website for further information. --[[User:Adonis|Adonis]] 16:13, 24 January 2007 (EST)
==hmmm2==
can't say I'd wholly agree either:
<pre>
> 4. Has a child widget in the middle which is a text area with two lines of text: "Greeting:" and "Hello, World".
> The text should be selectable.
> 5. Has a menu bar with file and edit entries. In file there should be a "Quit" entry which quits the program.
> In Edit there should be "Copy" entries. It should copy the selected text to the main clipboard.
</pre>
Both of these, while certainly doable, would take away from the simple task of getting a window open with SDL
They would require lenghty code and would make this tasks page monsterous in size for even just a few examples.
Calvin
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