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I agree that the ''structure'' task was ill-defined. Is it appropriate to define a new task to demonstrate language capabilities regarding specification of data representations?
:I have no problem with exploring data representation. However, I firmly believe that tasks need to be modularized. A task that explores something needs to be created in such a way that prevents it from hindering the completion of other portions of the task. In practice, this means that a task needs to focus on as few things as possible. A task that focuses on data representation needs to be about data representation.
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:Modularization is important because we need article titles to be representative of what the article is about. An article named "Custom data types" is not a good name for an article about sharing data between multiple languages, while "Share data between C and another language" would be. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 15:44, 26 February 2007 (EST)
::I am thinking about creating a number of well-contained tasks related to data representation. Some languages are strongly typed, some are weakly typed, some are statically typed, and some are dynamically typed. Each of the combinations of those attributes provides different abilities and approaches to defining data. There already exist tasks for defining structures and classes. I would like to add other tasks: Demonstrate how to determine or set the address of a variable. Demonstrate how to determine or set the minimum size (memory footprint) of a variable or data type. Demonstrate how to control the memory layout of fields within a data structure.
::Finally, I would like to develop a task to demonstrate how to make a data type that acts like a primitive data type but has programmer-defined characteristics such as a limited range of valid values. This task would include a demonstration, or discussion if the capability is built into the language, of how to implement the required range checking.
:::Sounds good to me. I'm not holding you back. I don't want to hold anyone back, really; This site grows as people add tasks. Of all the content on Rosetta Code, only around 10% was originally mine. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 19:17, 26 February 2007 (EST)
== Lucas-Lehmer test ==
Hi,...
I'm not an ADA producer... but I think that your program may be
able to get a bit further if you changed the following line:
MP : Long_Long_Integer := 2**Item - 1;
To (in hybrid Ada/C at least):
MP : Long_Long_Integer := 2ULL**Item - 1;
(esp if the bit width on Int is ≤ ¼ of Long_Long_Integer's width)
The logic is Lucas-Lehmer should be generate n in 2*n-1 where n is
"almost" half the bit width of Long_Long_Integer. If this width is
128, then n should get to:
M2 M3 M5 M7 M13 M17 M19 M31 M61
Unsigned also help get to M127 if Long_Long_Integer is 32 bytes wide,
if there is such a thing.
Cheers [[User:NevilleDNZ|NevilleDNZ]] 02:59, 16 February 2008 (MST)
:I gather from your example above that you are suggesting the use of an unsigned integer type. I use a Windows XP OS. The largest unsigned number available to me on my Ada compiler is a 64 bit unsigned number, which yields the same result.--[[User:Waldorf|Waldorf]] 07:02, 16 February 2008 (MST)
== [[Monty Hall simulation]] results ==
Hi, Your sample results could be in error could you take a look at the comment in the MH talk page please, thanks. --[[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] 15:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:The problem was handled by increasing the number of iterations. The discrete random number generator in the GNAT compiler is flaky for small numbers of runs.--[[User:Waldorf|Waldorf]] 00:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
== Primitive types ==
There's some interest in the intention behind [[Talk:Defining Primitive Data Types|Defining Primitive Types]], if you can take a moment to weigh in. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 02:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
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