Talk:Minesweeper game: Difference between revisions

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::: Oh! I thought that we were just discussing what the clearing ''is'' rather than whether it should be left out? don't think it would be much of a game without a clearing feature of some sort. --[[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] 16:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
:::: I've played implementations that didn't recursively clear, but it sounded to me like Dgamey was concerned about the task definition either being unclear, incorrect and/or limiting the use of languages which can solve the task in "spirit" (i.e. allow one to play a game recognizably like Minesweeper), but not easily solve it in its entierity. I was pondering a compromise, but I may have misinterpreted the conversation. --[[User:Short Circuit|Michael Mol]] 22:40, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
:::: I was referring to the HOW the clearing was done (i.e. recursion/iteration) rather than IF. Yes it should be a requirement. Just not how. --[[User:Dgamey|Dgamey]] 03:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 
:: The grid size and mine density chosen in the task (i.e. 6x4 and from 4 to 12 mines) won't show off the recursive clearing well. There won't be many squares with 0 adjacent bombs which is what is needed for that clearing is supposed to kick in. The classic game was (a) 9x9 10 mines, (b) 16x16 and 40 mines, and (c) 16x30 and 99 mines. I suggest making the values of the starting parameters a suggestion. --[[User:Dgamey|Dgamey]] 03:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 
FWIW, the ''real'' difference between this task and the classic game is that in the classic implementation, the first square you clear is ''never'' a mine; if there is a mine there, the game moves it away. In fact, there was (is?) a cheat which lets you find out where the mines are, and you can use that to confirm it yourself. (Alas, I don't remember the details of the cheat; it was a long time ago.) The moving of a mine only ever worked for the first square you cleared though. I don't suggest that anyone implements it, but it's one of the marks of the real original; it had a lot more thought applied to it than it appeared to have at the time. –[[User:Dkf|Donal Fellows]] 23:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
: Interesting feature. I believe the cheat was taken away before XP. --[[User:Dgamey|Dgamey]] 03:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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