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: Well, I assumed that it must mean that the program should not contain any quotation marks (single or double) and, moreover, should end with an 'f'. Otherwise it would be as trivial (in Wren) as:
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: Of course, it will still be trivial in some languages anyway (cf. Raku) though there are may others where it's difficult to avoid quotation marks when dealing with string or character literals. --[[User:PureFox|PureFox]] ([[User talk:PureFox|talk]]) 20:04, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
::That's what I figured; either the task is basically just "Hello World", or it locks out languages where output requires quotation marks. I am not super enthusiastic about either alternative. [[User:Thebigh|Thebigh]] ([[User talk:Thebigh|talk]]) 20:08, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
== Draft Revision==
I would like to propose revising the task description along the following lines:
Preamble: The "Code Golf:" prefix is intended for tasks in which a
metric of "code size" other than code length is the focus.
To contrast the difference, this particular page asks authors to
contrast a simple measure of code length with a syntax-oriented metric
of size that conforms to the following principle:
* if E and F are functionally equivalent programs, and if E can be
obtained from F by decreasing its length (e.g. by shortening
identifiers or removing white space or punctuation), then E and F have
the same "code size".
Task:
Consider the class of programs, G, that emit the nine characters in the string "Code Golf",
and define H as the instances of G that do not themselves contain string or character
literals.
(1) Specify a metric for measuring program length (e.g. bytes or codepoints)
and show a shortest instance of G using that metric.
(2) Using the same metric as in (1), show a shortest instance of H.
(3) Show a shortest instance of G in the sense that no further reduction
by changing identifiers or removing characters is possible.
(4) Same as (3) but for H.
Extra points:
a) give some informative details about the run-time space requirements
of the shortest intance of G given in (1). Alternatively, for
languages such as C, show the size of the stand-alone executable
produced by one particular compiler on one particular platform.
b) give or reference a script or program for measuring code size in
accordance with the principle (*) above.
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Please comment, or should I just post the revision so that others may improve it?
[[User:Peak|Peak]] ([[User talk:Peak|talk]])
:The task as currently defined was surprisingly fun as an intellectual excercise --[[User:Tigerofdarkness|Tigerofdarkness]] ([[User talk:Tigerofdarkness|talk]]) 18:06, 10 December 2021 (UTC).
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