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:Sorry guys, I'm not yet familiar with this site's ways of communication so I'm writing this by direct editing of the page.
:@Paddy: There's no need for excessive verbosity. Please take a deep breath and re-read my message again. I'm not just another script kiddie to talk to as if I were a moron.
:Quote Paddy: So are you saying that FBSL contains both a dynamic assembler and a dynamic C JIT (is that a compiler or interpreter) as subsets of the language? Unquote
:Quote TheWatcher: Dynamic Assembler and Dynamic C JIT compilers are indispensable features of FBSL alongside its interpretative environment. Unquote
:So what's not clear to you in this description? FBSL is an interpreter and its intrinsic DynAsm and DynC layers are JIT compilers that convert their listings into native (a.k.a. executable, a.k.a. machine) code in memory at app start concurrently with FBSL's own bytecode they are supposed to interact with.
:Quote Paddy: This is supposed to be a site for comparing language features. Unquote
:Now you can compare FBSL that has such a language feature with other languages that haven't.
:Quote Paddy: You should not be surprised if someone sees one languages entry copied and used for another language and questions it. Unquote
:I am not surprised at all at such jealosy. Just show me one other language where you can copy-paste the C solution into ''except'' C proper ''and'' FBSL to see it run happily.
:Quote Paddy ... how FBSL can use stock C ... Unquote
:In any way one likes. The rest depends on one's literacy in C.
:Quote Paddy: ... I do not know how well integrated C is with FBSL. Unquote
:Please see above.
:Quote Paddy: the FBSL entry looks like a wrapper for a C compiler/interpreter/JIT. Unquote
:It was my deliberate choice. Perhaps, someday I'm gonna add a handful of lines as a pure BASIC (Freestyle BASIC Script Language, that is) alternative to the same task. As for "compiler/interpreter/JIT", please see above.
:Quote Paddy: You could use the site to show why it is more than that with careful explanation and use of unique or near-unique features. Unquote
:Perhaps I will, if you don't scare me off of it before I do.
:Quote Paddy: Yep its tough when you're different... Unquote
:I'm leaving that out to your own conscience as irrelevant to the topic in question.
:@Rdm:
:Quote Rdm: How hard is it for another programmer (like [[User:Paddy3118|Paddy]]) to make this solution work? Unquote
:Perhaps Paddy even tried to implement it in his own language? "Been there", Paddy? "Done that"?
:Quote Rdm: Perl6 has analogous plans. Unquote
:Glad they are following the same trends. Means my own vision of the future is not unreasonable.
:Quote Rdm: Given modern machine sizes... Unquote
:No way. The Fbsl.exe v3.5 executable's footprint is only 580KB of un-exepacked binary code for everything it has to offer. No dependencies except for the Windows' standard system DLL's.
:Now thanks for this fruitful discussion. So what is the verdict?
:Kind regards,
:TheWatcher
:: Editing the page is usually fine (though you can also edit a single section - there's an "edit" link on each one). We often use deeper indent to indicate responses. I removed some extra blank lines from your last update.
:: But I think you misunderstood me "make this solution work" - I meant "make the FBSL solution work" - in other words, given your code and an implementation of FBSL, how hard is it to make it work. It should be simple enough.
:: Note also that Perl6 has been in the works for something like 10 years (maybe longer, I have not looked up its history as I am composing this) - it has some rather ambitious goals.
:: I think you also misunderstood my comment about sizes. I was not saying that your implementation had to be huge (especially since you are platform specific and relying on windows - which is "huge"), but instead was saying that the resource constraints which lead to the design of many current languages (BASIC, C, ...) are being relaxed. --[[User:Rdm|Rdm]] ([[User talk:Rdm|talk]]) 15:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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