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::::: From a wikisoftware point of view, the tools I was wishing for had to do with making it easier for me to clean up the mess, and making it harder (but not impossible - impossible is impossible to achieve, and a waste of time - also, people make mistakes even if they are administrators) for them to spam us. For example, it would be great if I could just delete a user and have all their contributions removed also. This would need some limitations (exercising that against a useful contributor would be awful, and more than once when I was looking at user contributions and seeing a bunch of spam pages at the top, I belatedly noticed that these were "marked as spam" edits, that would have been bad...). Still, the pattern seems to be that spammers use throwaway accounts (they kind of need to, since they are dedicated to making their welcome go away), so something focussed on removing history from recently created accounts would probably be a good thing. --[[User:Rdm|Rdm]] ([[User talk:Rdm|talk]]) 14:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
::::: From a wikisoftware point of view, the tools I was wishing for had to do with making it easier for me to clean up the mess, and making it harder (but not impossible - impossible is impossible to achieve, and a waste of time - also, people make mistakes even if they are administrators) for them to spam us. For example, it would be great if I could just delete a user and have all their contributions removed also. This would need some limitations (exercising that against a useful contributor would be awful, and more than once when I was looking at user contributions and seeing a bunch of spam pages at the top, I belatedly noticed that these were "marked as spam" edits, that would have been bad...). Still, the pattern seems to be that spammers use throwaway accounts (they kind of need to, since they are dedicated to making their welcome go away), so something focussed on removing history from recently created accounts would probably be a good thing. --[[User:Rdm|Rdm]] ([[User talk:Rdm|talk]]) 14:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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:::::: In my opinion the key to fighting spam is to move the burden of effort towards the spammer. The only way I can see that happen is when we disable automatic account creation and invite serious new contributors to drop us a line or meet us for a chat session. There are only a handful of serious new contributors per month, I think, the others are bogus, so the burden for admins would likely be less. Making regular contributions to Rosetta code will take many hours. Surely a serious contributor should be willing to deal with a small threshold. [[User:Fwend|Fwend]] ([[User talk:Fwend|talk]]) 14:45, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
:::::: In my opinion the key to fighting spam is to move the burden of effort towards the spammer. The only way I can see that happen is when we disable automatic account creation and invite serious new contributors to drop us a line or meet us for a chat session. There are only a handful of serious new contributors per month, I think, the others are bogus, so the burden for admins would likely be less. Making regular contributions to Rosetta code will take many hours. Surely a serious contributor should be willing to deal with a small threshold. [[User:Fwend|Fwend]] ([[User talk:Fwend|talk]]) 14:45, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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::::::: Maybe have prospective members submit a solution to one of the tasks by form so that we can have a quick look at it before their account is enabled. This should be easy for a serious contributor because that's what they intend to do anyway, but quite a burden for the spammer. [[User:Fwend|Fwend]] ([[User talk:Fwend|talk]]) 15:04, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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: Is it known why the other 2 admins, Paddy3118 and Mwn3d, are not active? [[User:Fwend|Fwend]] ([[User talk:Fwend|talk]]) 14:18, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
: Is it known why the other 2 admins, Paddy3118 and Mwn3d, are not active? [[User:Fwend|Fwend]] ([[User talk:Fwend|talk]]) 14:18, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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:: I presume they are busy. Contributing here is a voluntary activity, and sometimes people need to deal with other things. I know I've gone and been busy elsewhere sometimes for months at a time. Real life is like that sometimes... --[[User:Rdm|Rdm]] ([[User talk:Rdm|talk]]) 14:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
:: I presume they are busy. Contributing here is a voluntary activity, and sometimes people need to deal with other things. I know I've gone and been busy elsewhere sometimes for months at a time. Real life is like that sometimes... --[[User:Rdm|Rdm]] ([[User talk:Rdm|talk]]) 14:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC) |
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