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What if we were to add a 'custodian' role to draft tasks, where someone who sees a draft without a custodian can be the go-to guy for clarifying the task idea into something that can be implemented or built upon? Once the task graduates to full-task status, it falls under the more general behaviors we already have. As for things like [[VList]] and [[Loading animated 3D data]], perhaps those tasks should be modified such that they're more achievable or implementable. (VList might also include a "demonstrate its use" section, while the 3d animated data task might not be so specific to require the use of Smil and X3D, but go on to show how to proceed along the individual model "frames") --[[User:Short Circuit|Michael Mol]] 01:21, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:Isn't the initial 'custodian' the person who starts the task? I think it is good that people that have good ideas for tasks, but who do not have English as a first language, have asked for help with their task and recieved it. But what about the tasks for which the people who might have helped, feel reticent for some reason? --[[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] 05:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:: Yes. As things stand, the custodian for a new task is whoever created it. However, the task creator doesn't always stick around (The majority of entries currently in [[Rosetta Code:Village Pump/Suggest a programming task]]) or check back (see the mess that caused in [[Multisplit]]). By making explicit who the 'custodian' is, we have the ability to allow transfer of ownership in case a task author/originator has moved on. With transfer of ownership comes the ability to take something that hasn't been built upon, and reshape it so that it can be built. --[[User:Short Circuit|Michael Mol]] 14:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:Don't we want tasks in which the original creator had to put in the initial effort to see it through any initial doldrums? --[[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] 05:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:Do we want to, in effect, move some of the list of suggested tasks into abandoned task pages with just as much information in them?▼
:: Yes. And this wouldn't prevent that. The best tasks on the site have tended to be those which someone sat through and was available as they evolved. However, not everybody has the skills to take a task idea and put it into enough human words to be clear and task-like. (I personally know people who've chosen not to create tasks not because they wouldn't like to, but because they don't think they're allowed, but because they don't believe they can put their idea clearly into task form) Not everybody has the skills to actually know about what it is they'd like to see written as a task. (Such as when I asked for [[Levenshtein distance]], or, really, half the things I've put on [[Rosetta Code:Village Pump/Suggest a programming task]]; these are things I'd like to understand, but don't) A custodial system would let someone take an abandoned task suggestion, boil it down to find the interesting bits and build tasks out of those. If there was anything useful in the original idea, it isn't lost, but refined by someone with an interest in it. --[[User:Short Circuit|Michael Mol]] 14:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
▲:Do we want to, in effect, move some of the list of suggested tasks into abandoned task pages with just as much information in them? --[[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] 05:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:: Actually, that's more or less what I'd like to see, with the caveat that we can identify when tasks are abandoned and have free license (in a social sense) to reformulate them into something more useful and/or interesting. The 'custodian' idea was intended as way of explicitly identifying who had that license, and as a way of clarifying whether or not a task is truly abandoned. (If a task transfers custodianship, then we can ask the new custodian. If the new custodian doesn't ceases to take interest in the task, then the custodianship can transfer again) --[[User:Short Circuit|Michael Mol]] 14:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:Is this a case where it would help if we got the thoughts of long-term members of much larger wiki's? (Is there a meta wiki wiki)?
:--[[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] 05:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:: I really don't know. I can think of arguments either way, as usual. However, I'll ping this page out on the twitter and Facebook accounts; we might conceivably get more input that way. Could also set up things like Doodle and Facebook polls. --[[User:Short Circuit|Michael Mol]] 14:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
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