# Talk:Thiele's interpolation formula

How many entries should the trig table have? --Michael Mol 14:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

- I make it 16, with
*x*varying by steps of 0.05 from 0 to 1.55. (Now, if only I could make my version of this*work*, but that algol68 code is deeply gnarly; does it really have different base indices in different dimensions?!?) –Donal Fellows 16:01, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I picked 32 rows to the table. Basically "**from** 0 **by** 0.05 **to** 1.55 ..." as 0.05 seems to give the full single precision answer (on an i686 CPU at least). Ideally this size would be calculated from the desired precision, but I don't have a formula for this precision calculation. NevilleDNZ 21:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

- The task description modification is nice, but would it be terribly problematic to just provide the table? The task seems to have more stages than it really needs. A TSV table would be pretty useful for the purpose, IMHO. --Michael Mol 22:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

The table of (*x, sin x, cos x, tan x*) records is generated prior to any interpolation being done... Then the interpolation is used to create — user defined — *inv sin, inv cos and inv tan* functions. The three simple π calculations — 6 × sin^{-1} ½, 3 × cos^{-1} ½ and 4 × tan^{-1} 1 — simply present/test/prove the interpolation is implemented correctly. A subsequent table of (*y, inv sin y, inv cos y, inv tan y*) records — while a bonus — is not strictly required. NevilleDNZ 23:25, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

- Understood, but since the task is about interpolation, I figured that generating the initial reference table might be a spurious requirement. --Michael Mol 23:43, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I confess that I was trying to think of something "interesting" (yet simple) to interpolate, and recalled using interpolation to calculate inverse trig functions from high school log/trig tables[1]. Hence this unit test. What would be nice would be some "historic" interpolation, e.g. Discovery of Neptune, that would be another task in itself. The three π calculations from a generic trig table is practical. NevilleDNZ 00:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

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### [edit] re:base indices in different dimensions

Yes. Here is a quote from the 1968 Congress: C.H.A. Koster (1993). "The Making of Algol 68" (PDF).

The IFIP 1968 Congress took place that August in Edinburgh, just a few hours drive away from North Berwick. Van Wijngaarden’s invited lecture on Algol 68 was to me the high point of the conference, and not only to me. The auditorium was packed, people were standing on all sides, even in the corridors and outside, in front of the hall. Van Wijngaarden appeared in the centre, smiling radiantly. “Let me sell you a language”, he started, and proceeded to outline the ideas behind the language. He showed some examples. “Can you deﬁne triangular arrays?” someone (Tony Hoare?) interrupted. “Not just triangular, but even elliptical” replied Aad, and showed how. He carried the listeners with him, from scepsis to enthusiasm. There was a prolonged applause. Vehemently discussing, people streamed out of the hall. A small man pushed through the throng, straight at me. “Conkratulations, your Master hass done it” said Niklaus Wirth in his inimitable Swiss-German English.

Basically, Algol 68 is agnostic about where an array starts, although the default starting point for both an array and a **do** ~ **od** loop is __one__. Hence - for convenience - in the Hair Commodore's ALGOL 68 code specimen s/he pushes some array base indices to 1 using the [@1] construct.

NevilleDNZ 21:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

## [edit] Better example code?

I find the Algol hard to follow, and am having difficulty finding the algorithm in another language on the 'net. Does anyone have an example of in aonther language/pseudocode? It would be good if we could get better description of the task than the wikipedia entry I. --Paddy3118 04:24, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I've just tried to do a little more and the description given by the formula isn't long enough to clearly show the form of the continued fraction. I think the ellipsis needs further elaboration. --Paddy3118 05:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

## [edit] Tcl example wrong

I know that there's something distinctly wrong with the Tcl version of the code as the output values are wrong, but I just cannot see it. Too much looking at code, so I've dumped it in here for now as I'm pretty sure that the *approach* is right. It's just the details which I think are off. If anyone spots the issue, please let me know! –Donal Fellows 07:15, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

- Damn! And there I was waiting on your example to help work out how to create the Python one. :-)

--Paddy3118 11:21, 3 October 2010 (UTC)- I just added a C specimen... enjoy... NevilleDNZ 12:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

- Corrected it. The D version is much easier to work with; it doesn't play indexing games so it's easy to translate into code that always uses zero-based indexing. –Donal Fellows 14:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

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This task would probably be much easier to solve without resorting to translation if there were a task explicitly demonstrating finite sequences. wp:reciprocal difference would be helpful. I'd suggest using the same f(x) as used here. (sin, tan, cos) --Michael Mol 12:45, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

## [edit] Perl 6 Version is flawed

It works, but isn't 100% faithful to the formula. (See the comment about "form" vs. the real form of the continued fraction.) Smosher 19:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

- Does that explain why the cos result is way off? --Ledrug 23:12, 27 July 2011 (UTC)