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Line 1: {{Vptopic \|topic=Sales and stuff \|summary=Discussion of methods to allow [[User:Short Circuit\|Mike Mol]] to recover his costs relating to running RC. }} I'm moving forward on sales of things like T-shirts and coffee mugs. Currently, the output venue is planned to be Cafe Press, which offers a variety of options for stamping pictures on. Some graphics work is being done to have images to put on things, but I'm going to want your help for some of it. ==Plans== Current plans are to divide the image sets into four general concepts: Line 11 ⟶ 17: * General programmer -- multilingual background, core image in a corner, and a singular phrase (not translated for different languages). --[[User:Short Circuit\|Michael Mol]] 02:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC) ==Where I need help== What I really would like help with is coming up with ideas for what to put on the lingual sets and general programmers. I can't offer any money for the ideas or their use; I don't even know that this will pull in enough to offset the cost of the server. (The graphics folks get a cut of what's left after Cafe Press takes their cut.) Line 19 ⟶ 28: --[[User:Short Circuit\|Michael Mol]] 02:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC) ==Web ads== : Have you considered using advertising to help cover your costs? (For example, sourceforge uses doubleclick advertising but maybe something like adsense would make more sense here.) --[[User:Rdm\|Rdm]] 15:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC) ::Have ~~Google~~you ~~Adsense~~considered isusing ~~enabled~~advertising onto ~~the~~help ~~site~~cover ~~for~~your ~~anonymous~~costs? ~~visitors.~~ ~~I've~~(For ~~gotten~~example, ~~something~~sourceforge ~~like~~uses ~~$10USD~~doubleclick inadvertising ~~the~~but ~~last~~maybe ~~month~~something ~~and~~like aadsense ~~half.~~would ~~Monthly~~make ~~server~~more ~~cost~~sense ishere.) ~~about $35USD~~ --[[User:~~Short Circuit~~Rdm\|~~Michael Mol~~Rdm]] 1815:2519, 19 May 2010 (UTC) :~~::They~~ ~~seem~~Google toAdsense beis aenabled ~~lot~~on ~~more~~the ~~relevant~~site ~~than~~for ~~they~~anonymous ~~were before~~visitors. ~~So we~~I've ~~got~~gotten ~~that~~something ~~going~~like ~~for~~$10USD ~~us.~~in ~~It's~~the ~~not~~last ~~too~~month ~~intrusive~~and a ~~anyway~~half. ~~Maybe~~Monthly ~~turn~~server itcost onis ~~for all visitors whether they're logged in or~~about ~~not?~~$35USD --[[User:~~Mwn3d~~Short Circuit\|~~Mwn3d~~Michael Mol]] 1618:5125, 2019 May 2010 (UTC) ::They seem to be a lot more relevant than they were before. So we've got that going for us. It's not too intrusive anyway. Maybe turn it on for all visitors whether they're logged in or not? --[[User:Mwn3d\|Mwn3d]] 16:51, 20 May 2010 (UTC) ::: I can ''do'' that, but I myself find ads on pages irritating. That's why I've limited it to text, only, and filtered out all ad categories that aren't relevant to anything RC is even remotely about. Which is almost everything they let me filter, oddly enough. About the only thing I haven't opted to filter out are 'video game ads'. The actual ''useful'' ads I've seen, such as toolchain ads for langauges, and "wanted" ads for coders of such, don't appear related to any of the categories I've seen. If it doesn't bother other people too much, I'll enable ads for everyone. I wish I {knew how\|had time} to write a preferences extension page; I'd put an option to disable ads in there, and leave it at that. --[[User:Short Circuit\|Michael Mol]] 18:41, 20 May 2010 (UTC)