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Copying from Wikipedia

As you may already know, wikipedia supplies samples of code in 'pseudocode'. Would it make sense to copy these across from wiki to here (placed in its own 'pseudocode language section). Maybe then others may use these as a base for translating them into one of the 'usable' codes. There shouldn't be any legal issues in doing this, should there? --Oatzy 18:47, 25 January (GMT)

As a blanket rule, if you copy from Wikipedia, include a citation with a link to the specific version of the page copied from. I don't know that the GFDL requires it, but I will. :-) I'll mention this in the Rosetta Code:Copyrights page. --Short Circuit 13:57, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Upgrade

Upgraded MediaWiki from 1.9 to 1.11. Let me know if something's broken that I didn't fix. --Short Circuit 22:45, 28 October 2007 (MDT)

Yeah, the expression templates like #if aren't working. Did you forget to reinstall the ParserFunctions extension? See FizzBuzz for example. --IanOsgood 02:49, 29 October 2007 (MDT)

Should be working now. The upgrade process completely borked my settings, so I'd had to recreate at them based on a diff. I missed the extensions lines. --Short Circuit 08:31, 29 October 2007 (MDT)

Ah, crud. While I was asleep, we got a ton of spam. Onward, Bureaucrats! :-) --Short Circuit 08:32, 29 October 2007 (MDT)

Kudos

Just wanted to give kudos to Mwn3d for going through and switching the remainder of the pages to use Template:Header, and to IanOsgood for going back and cleaning up Mwn3d's and my messes. Take a 100pt patch each. :-) --Short Circuit 13:07, 13 November 2007 (MST)

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-It took a month, but we now have [[Help:syntaxHighlighter Support|Syntax Highlighting]]!  It would be very helpful if people crawled through all the programming examples on Rosetta Code and instituted the formatting changes. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 16:50, 20 February 2007 (EST)
+}}
-:And...Syntax highlighting support has been removed.  It worked poorly for each tested language, and didn't support many languages already in place on Rosetta code. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 10:28, 22 February 2007 (EST)
-::Damn... That sucks... Well, I guess I'll see what I can do, unfortunately, I changed to a new computer, and lost everything I've done 'till now. But well... --[[User:CrashandDie|CrashandDie]] 02:44, 6 March 2007 (EST)
-:::Hey, it's good to hear from you.  Might I recommend you try building a MediaWiki extension, rather than a bot?  The highlighting extension we tried last month worked by adding &lt;syntaxHighlighting language="blah"&gt; tags around the code block, leaving the code easily editable.  I don't think it would be easy to do that using a bot that dropped in &lt;font&gt; tags. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 02:52, 6 March 2007 (EST)
-::::Ok, I'll look into that, I'll probably just mod the actual syntaxhighlighting, I'll get the sources from mediawiki and start working on it as soon as I have some time to spare... Cheers --[[User:CrashandDie|CrashandDie]] 10:33, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
-:::::Well, spare time isn't what I've had the most, to say the least... I'll get in touch with you Short Circuit in order to see if there's anything you need help with, if syntax highlighting is still up to date, I'll try to get to it, I'll get back to you soon, anyhow. --[[User:CrashandDie|CrashandDie]] 13:27, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
 ==Copying from Wikipedia==
 As you may already know, wikipedia supplies samples of code in 'pseudocode'. Would it make sense to copy these across from wiki to here (placed in its own 'pseudocode language section). Maybe then others may use these as a base for translating them into one of the 'usable' codes. There shouldn't be any legal issues in doing this, should there? --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 18:47, 25 January (GMT)
-:As a blanket rule, if you copy from Wikipedia, include a citation with a link to the specific version of the page copied from. I don't know that the GFDL requires it, but ''I'' will. :-) I'll mention this in the Copyrights page. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 13:57, 25 January 2007 (EST)
+:As a blanket rule, if you copy from Wikipedia, include a citation with a link to the specific version of the page copied from. I don't know that the GFDL requires it, but ''I'' will. :-) I'll mention this in the [[Rosetta Code:Copyrights]] page. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 13:57, 25 January 2007 (EST)
-== Things needed ==
-) A village pump type page (like wikipedia has) where this kind of stuff can be put
-) Better segregation of language types. For instance, is LaTeX really a programming language? As a markup language, it's as much a programming language as HTML is IMO. (Of course, HTML could be added instead), should completely different codes be on their own page?
-) Better guidelines as to what code should be placed. Is something that will run on it's own required, or just enough lines to complete the task (for instance, the part of a C++ program which will print "goodbye world" is: std::cout "goodbye world\n"; but that wouldn't compile on its own. On the other hand a BASIC compiler (or interpreter) will complete the task with: print "goodbye world", but it wouldn't really be a complete program (missing a line number and 'end' or 'system' at the end). So should people place: Only the code that completes the requirements? or; Enough code to get it to compile, dependent on how lax the compiler in question is? or; A program that is completed to specifications and accomplishes the task?
-) A copy of (or a link to) the GFDL1.2 that is easily visible.
-[[User:62.252.32.16|62.252.32.16]] 17:57, 22 January 2007 (EST)
-:1) Click on Feedback on the left.
-:2) Once I get time to work on categorization, that'll happen. I need more people to step up and work on keeping style standards high.
-:3) I'll work on clarifying the tasks to that end.  Something like [[Control Structures]] clearly doesn't require a full program, while something like [[File I/O]] does.
-:4) Click on the GNU FDL icon in the bottom-left corner of any page. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 12:39, 23 January 2007 (EST)
-===ParserFunctions===
-Can we get [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions ParserFunctions] installed?  It would really help with making more flexible templates.  --[[User:Bob9000|Bob9000]] 00:00, 1 February 2007 (EST)
-:Done.  Enjoy. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 09:47, 1 February 2007 (EST)
-== Solution to linkspam? ==
+==Upgrade==
-At last, there has been a lot of linkspam vandalism. Those linkspams should be easy to automatically identify because they insert many links at once. Since valid external links are rare on this site, and many external links in one edit are virtually never done, maybe a simple rule to fight linkspam would be to automatically reject any change which introduces more than, say, three external links at once. This shouldn't be too strict for normal usage (if at some rare occurence you really need to insert more than three links, you can simply do two edits in a row). You also can except admins from that rule (nobody gets admin through an automatic procedure, thus spammers will never get admin rights).
-:A simpler change would be to only allow logged-in users to make changes.  I'm working out how to do this.  It's not, unfortunately, a built-in option in Mediawiki. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 09:32, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
+Upgraded MediaWiki from 1.9 to 1.11.  Let me know if something's broken that I didn't fix. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 22:45, 28 October 2007 (MDT)
-== Spam wave prediction ==
+: Yeah, the expression templates like #if aren't working. Did you forget to reinstall the '''ParserFunctions''' extension? See [[FizzBuzz]] for example. --[[User:IanOsgood|IanOsgood]] 02:49, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
+:: Should be working now.  The upgrade process completely borked my settings, so I'd had to recreate at them based on a diff.  I missed the extensions lines. --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 08:31, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
+:: Ah, crud.  While I was asleep, we got a ton of spam.  Onward, Bureaucrats! :-) --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 08:32, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
+==Kudos==
-There has been disturbing activity lately ("+" killers appeared as logged-in users with apparently randomly generated names). Given that similar activity from IPs happened before the spam wave which led to disallowing anonymous editing, and given that some spamming was indeed combined with removing "+" signs, I fear that's a testing of spambots for a new spam wave. Maybe creating a new account should be protected by Captchas.
+Just wanted to give kudos to [[User:Mwn3d|Mwn3d]] for going through and switching the remainder of the pages to use Template:Header, and to [[User:IanOsgood|IanOsgood]] for going back and cleaning up Mwn3d's and my messes. Take a 100pt patch each. :-) --[[User:Short Circuit|Short Circuit]] 13:07, 13 November 2007 (MST)
-: I've been working on some new kaptcha's (ideas), drop me an email or edit my talk page if you're interested... --[[User:CrashandDie|CrashandDie]] 07:34, 2 July 2007 (EDT)